Are Muslims Saved? Will Muslims Go To Heaven?
Ask if Muslims are saved as a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ question and most Christians will agree on the same answer. However, this question needs to be answered much differently, and with more detail. Here’s how Christians should respond.
Let’s be honest, and agree, we could replace the word “Muslim” with gays, Mormons, drunks, murderers, adulterers, or whatever, and the answer should be the same.
What is that answer?
First, if am asked that question, the first thing I want to do is remind that person that ‘God so loved the WORLD that he gave His only begotten Son‘ – John 3:16.
The WORLD includes every human that ever walked the planet. Yep, Hitler, too. Jesus died for Muslims, gays, murderers, and every kind of person in between.
In fact, God loves Muslims, and the rest of the people on that list so much that His heart is that no one will perish. Not even one – 2 Peter 3:9.
Moreover, for a moment, let’s table the question of Muslim salvation. I’d like to stop and point the finger at myself. I have sinned, thousands, if not millions of times.
The wages of sin is death. It only takes ONE sin. So, we know that this is not a problem that’s limited to Muslims, gays, murderers, etc.
We ALL have the same problem, and we all need the same solution. We need Jesus.
Romans 5:8 tells us ‘But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us‘.
So, we all, Muslims included, have the same problem. But it’s not what many people think.
The problem is not a need to stop sinning. Though we certainly are called to.
The problem is not a need to repent, that is, if by ‘repent’ you mean stop/turn from outward sin. Though we are certainly called to.
The problem is inward. It’s the sin of ‘unbelief’ in Jesus as the Son of God, sent to save us.
Did you ever notice that after the cross people were told to ‘repent and believe’?
We were never told to repent and stop our outward sin so we can be saved.
Side Note: Repent means to turn from.
In context, we are being told to ‘repent’ from a belief system. In the case of the Jews, they needed to turn from the belief that their ceremonies and law-keeping (human effort), and self-righteousness could save them, and instead, they needed to ‘believe’ that only Jesus, the Son of God, could do that.
So, when someone asks me if a Muslim is saved, I first want to point out God’s love towards them, and all of us. I get so tired of these lifeless religious teachers down-talking gays, Muslims, drunks, etc, and implying that God doesn’t love them just as they are. Yes, their sin grieves Him. But He still loves them with all His heart. And that’s why he sent Jesus. God was willing to die for Muslims. For Gays. For Murders. For You. For Me. For all of us.
Again, the problem is NOT outward. It’s inward.
Now, I am not saying Muslims are saved. There is a choice that we all must make. The Bible is littered with scriptures about not hardening our hearts. There are countless warnings about hell and the danger of unbelief. There is no way to God except through belief in Jesus.
So, wrapping up on my answer to the million-dollar question, is ‘are Muslims saved’, and will they go to heaven?
We don’t even need to use the word Muslim to give an answer to that. Remember, we are all born dead in our sins, dead in Adam. And we all need is life….not better performance.
So, when someone asks ‘are Muslims saved’? Instead of trying to determine who is or who is not saved, let’s just tell them what God said. Read the scriptures that tell us who is and who is not saved (see below), and conclude with ‘if the shoe fits’.
HOW TO KNOW YOU ARE SAVED
Romans 10:13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
Ephesians 2:8-9 ‘For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast’.
John 3:16 ‘“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:18 “He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God”
John 3:36 “He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
John 5:24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
John 6:40 “For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.”
Ephesians 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
Romans 3:21-22 ‘But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;
Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
Author: Mike Cynar
Mike Cynar was raised in a church setting where he frequently noticed that many attendees would eventually drift away. The church labeled these individuals as ‘back sliders’ or ‘fake Christians’ just looking for ‘fire insurance’. However, Mike realized the issue was rarely with these individuals but instead with the church’s message itself. The teachings heavily emphasized behavior improvement and one’s flaws, with only a fleeting mention of one’s identity in Christ. It felt as though every sermon was tailored to the church of Corinth, who as we know or committing sins that even unbelievers don’t partake in. This trend was noticeable not just in one denomination, but across Baptist, Catholic, Pentecostal, and many other churches. Upon understanding the true essence of the gospel – that our righteousness comes from Jesus’ actions, not our own – Mike was inspired to liberate believers from lifeless sermons and reconnect them with the genuine teachings of Jesus. He believes that one can nurture a vibrant and growing bond with Jesus, unhindered by rigid religious practices. And thus, “Jesus Without Religion” was born.
It turns out that it is grace that leads to repentance. And if our heart is to get others to walk in the Spirit and live a godly life, then the best approach is not a beat down sermon, but rather to remind other that it is only when we understand our true identity in Christ that we will live it out. Yes, it’s true, if you’re convinced that God thinks you’re a dirty sinner, you will ultimately continue a lifestyle that mirrors that view, but if you truly believe that even on your worst day, you are called holy, sanctified, justified, and will be presented blameless in the end, well, it turns out this is the secret to living out on the outside what has been worked in to the inside.
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In the beginning of your article here where you “semi-quoted” 2 Peter, it is clear to see you took it completely out of context by not 1. sharing the entire quote and 2. by not following it up with a quote of 2 Peter 3:10…
“9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”
Thereby you have misinterpreted His word severely.
And I have to point out how wrong you are about moslems. They do NOT believe in our God. Read their qur’an. It clearly states, as any moslem will tell you so, that their ‘god’ (allah) had no children, they do NOT believe Jesus Christ as their Saviour, their only belief is in their ‘allah’, a FALSE ‘god’. Are moslems going to Heaven? It is not my place to say, I only know what the holy
Bible states on this. Just as it is not my place to say if a gay person, an alcoholic, a drug addict, a violent person, etc. is going to Heaven. They, including moslems, can repent from their sin and be saved. 100%! The difference being that moslems would have to repent from their belief in ‘allah’ and then those who repent and believe in Christ as their Saviour would not be called “moslems” for “moslems” only belief is in ‘allah’, they would then be called Christians. And historically, we know the backlash they’d receive for converting, sadly most would have to flee their homes or face torture and even death.
And just for added context, John 3:16 states, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
You left out THE most important part, “…that whosoever BELIEVETH in HIM…” and by doing so you are misguiding people.
So to even put John 3:16 in perspective, continue reading verses 17, 18, and 19:
“17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.”
I don’t understand why you’d write an article like that as if moslems will be saved, “none shall perish” when that is not true. And then at the end you reveal what is true posting scriptures to negate your pro-moslem stance. A moslem who no longer believes in ‘allah’ of islam can not be called a ‘moslem’, as the moslems would refer to them as kafir, as in “infidel”, “pagan”, “rejector”, “denier”, “disbeliever”, “unbeliever”, “nonbeliever”, and “non-Muslim”.
So, from scripture, it tells us that those who do not believe will be condemned. Those who believe in false ‘gods’ will be condemned if they do not turn away from that, repent, and accept Christ as their One True Saviour.
Thank you for your time.
Summer, you are literally all over the place with your comment. I’m not even sure you wrote it in sound mind. In fact, wildly misquoted me leading me to believe you did not watch the full video. Either way, you’re so far off from quoting my comments and thoughts that I’m not even going to begin to address them until you properly quote me.
I believe that Summer is correct. Muslims DO NOT believe that Jesus is God and in doing so, they are rejecting the fact that Christ was our SAVIOUR. They believe Jesus existed but they don’t believe he was the “main character”. Also 2 Peter 3:9 only says that God doesn’t fulfil his promises slowly and that you should repent of your sins. He wants people to repent of his sins. Not that “no one will perish.”
In this sense, you have severely misinterpreted the Bible.
Your response to Summer was also immature; I pray that you gain discernment, wisdom, selflessness and patience and review everything you’ve written in this post and pray on the whole thing to God.
May God bless you and guide you,
It should be noted that I, too stated that Muslims do not believe Jesus is God, and they are rejecting Jesus as Savior.
2 Peter 3:9 is referring to the sin of unbelief. No one will perish because of outward sin. Jesus PAID for those. And Peter is lovely calling for them to believe. the context is exceedingly clear in Peter’s letter.
I too pray that YOU gain discernment, wisdom, selflessness and patience and review everything you’ve written in this post and pray on the whole thing to God. Because what you were suggesting right now, my friend is that we are saved by avoiding outward sin, and I can assure you there is no room for Jesus in the theology.
God didn’t create religion, man did. In my opinion, none of you were right, nor am I (As I said before, I’m just saying my opinion), but I think Mike was closer. At the end of the day, God is the ultimate judge and all we can do is follow the scripture and obey. As Mike said, It is wrong to make a group of people destined for hell. Some middle eastern Christians call God Allah, and there are lots of connections between islam and Christianity. Islam sadly doesn’t believe Jesus is God and they believe his lookalike died on the cross (I think). Also, remember how Jesus handled opposition and criticism (I don’t think I spelt that right). Lastly, I would really like to hear your opinion on this, as I’m still a kid and I’m still learning!
We need to ask ourself this.
If there really is a God that created us, is he literally hiding in the shadows and won’t make us aware of who he is or what his desires are?
I don’t think that would be logical at all.
So, if he has revealed himself to us, we have to ask ourselves which God is the real God? After all, there are so many versions from so many religions.
There’s no way I could get into it in a single post, but I am convinced Christianity follows the one true living God. And rather than debate, I would encourage everyone to do their own research and find out if the gospel of Jesus Christ has any real legitimate truth to it.
If you want some resources I think a great starting point would be a book written by Lee Strobel called ‘A Case for Christ’. Strobel was a respected journalist for the Chicago tribune.
Strobel was also a devout atheist. Suddenly, his wife came to know Jesus as the one true living God. Strobel was a man of facts. He sat out on what would be a two-year journey as he flew all across the globe in search of documents, manuscripts, and evidence that would discredit what he believed to be the biggest lie ever told. He was going to prove that this whole Christianity and resurrection was a fraud.
Few people have ever examine the evidence like Strobel did. Today he is a devout Christian. His story is that after deeply investigating all the witnesses, testimonies, and facts that were available it would be impossible to suggest that Jesus is not the living God. Moreover, Strobel is a pastor today.
It’s very difficult for me to argue who the true God is with anyone who has never dug deep enough to enter a debate. That’s fine. Many people are quick to say God is not real or that none of the gods we talk about are real. Many do this without having ever lifted a finger to make sure there’s any substance to what they’re saying.
While there may seem to be some connections between Islam and Christianity, at the end of the day Islam completely falls apart in terms of salvation. Christianity insist that you must believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that no one comes to the father except through Jesus. Islam is not having it. They believe Jesus was nothing more than a good man who was a teacher. They fully reject him as the living Christ. This completely disqualifies them for salvation according to Christianity.
If anyone is truly seeking who the one true God is, let me encourage you to dig your heels in and examine the facts before you reject Jesus. A good starting point for you may be the book I described above. And there are many other authors who have written similar books founded on years of factual research.
It may also be worthy of examining all of the prophecies that were fulfilled through Jesus Christ. If we truly look at them on a factual level only one can only walk away saying it is statistical impossibility that Jesus could’ve fulfilled so many prophecies and not be who He claims to be.
By the way, Mike, I didn’t watch the video. I had to get ready to sleep for school.
Well this is interesting. You both are no different than two right wing left wing politicians with their opinions and making scripture into what you want to believe as the truth. Yes the scriptures say what you said about that whosoever believes in Jesus will have everlasting life. Jesus also said in the very next verse. ”For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.“
John 3:17 NKJV
Now having said that. Jesus himself said this ”And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.“
John 12:47-48 KJV
NONE of you and not Jesus himself is our judge. The sure path to heaven is through Jesus but in the end it is God who judges us! If I’m a Christian which I am, and I fully believe in Jesus and love Him and do His work but I cheat on my wife am I still going to heaven? I do t know but God does. In the end it is not for you or me to determine who is going to heaven or hell because in the end God will judge. If I’m born a Muslim and this religious belief has been put I front of me my whole life and you come to me and tell me about Jesus bd put a Bible in my face then what am I supposed to beleive? One book over the other? The Bible is a translation of many documents written by human hand (Holy spirit inspired) and what if he says well here is my Bible the Quran, if you don’t follow this book then you will go to hell. Who is right and who is wrong based on what they have been raised to believe? You are immature in your thinking as to judge those you have no right to judge this is why God sent Jesus to the world tj save it from accidental Pharisees who feel they have the right to say where his own creation is going. Do Muslims believe that our God created them? How do you change the belief of someone who has been raised their whole life to believe in their God. What do you think just because you go tell them about Jesus and they don’t beleive then they are doomed ? You are not God and neither are they. That’s why God didn’t even put judgment on Jesus. ”For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.“
John 12:49 KJV
Then it’s God who judges based on His heart not yours or mine. Jesus came to save the world not condemn it. If he didn’t condemn it then neither can you. Love God and love others is the greatest commandment if we have love we have nothing! That is also in the Bible. Let’s all be like Jesus and. Help save the world with His love and let God judge!
It seems there’s been a misunderstanding in interpreting Scripture according to your perspective.
You mention that Jesus’ mission was not to judge the world but to offer salvation. However, it appears you’re implying that Jesus promised universal salvation, which does not align with the truth of biblical scripture.
While you’ve referenced John 3:17, it’s important to consider the continuation in John 3:18. This verse clarifies that belief in Jesus is a criterion for salvation, implying that a lack of belief results in judgment.
[John 3:18] The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe HAS BEEN JUDGED already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
The point about judgment doesn’t require abandoning reason; it’s directly stated that disbelief is synonymous with judgment AND condemnation.
Jesus indeed came to save, not to condemn. Yet, belief in Him is required for salvation, and John 3:18 underscores this by stating that disbelief has already set the stage for judgment.
It’s hard to take you seriously, especially since you seem to suggest that your salvation comes from whether or not you’re cheating on your wife, when the Scriptures are very clear that we are not saved by works, we are saved through faith. What would we call cheating on our wife? Adultery. Where do we see adultery in the scripture? In the mosaic law. So, let’s just call it like it is. You’re unsure if you’re going to be saved if you break the mosaic law. And while cheating on your wife is a really bad idea, Galatians 2:21 tells us that if righteousness could be obtained through the law, then Jesus died needlessly.
And what kind of baseless remark is it to say that I am determining who is going to heaven or hell? I’ve never made such a claim. The Scriptures are beyond clear about who is going to heaven and hell, and all one needs to do is read them in their context. So, to be clear, the authority is not my opinion, but rather the words revealed to us through the holy scriptures.
As far as which book to believe (Quran vs Bible). You need to read them both very carefully and ask, which one is from the most reliable sources? But I’m not interested in making any argument about the Quran. You can make your own decision on which book is the truth. As for me, I am a Christian, so I don’t find the need to defend the Quran. But I will defend the Holy Bible. And you have to commit intellectual suicide to suggest that anyone who rejects Jesus will still be saved. You certainly are not reading the Holy Bible if you walked away with that thinking.
Quite frankly, I don’t take you very seriously when you claim to be a Christian and then turn around and cite the Quran as an authoritative source, especially since it completely rejects, the identity of Jesus Christ, and his claims that he is God. Both cannot be true.
It’s late at night where I come from
muslims or anyoneelse are saved ONLY if they have accepted Jesus as Messiah, the Son of God and God the Son. They cease to be muslims when they come under the grace oi God accepting Christ alone by faith alone. A muslim isn’t one by birth, it’s not an ethnicity but is a member of the islamic religion. There is no salvation apart from Christ. Hence mormons, catholics, muslims, etc. aren’t saved regardless of how much they may claim it.
How are Catholics not saved when they accept Jesus Christ as the messiah and follow him?
To be Clear, ANYONE who “accepts Jesus Christ as the Messiah and follows him” are saved.
But I don’t think that describe the majority of Catholics…..
Catholics pray to Saints. Saints are men and women. Humans. I question if some one is following Jesus if they pray to people. Paul, James, Peter, whoever, Christians should never pray to humans.
Catholics call their Priests Father.
Yet, we are told in scripture ‘And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven’ – Matthew 23:9
Some Catholics go through these very weird ceremonies at funerals as if somehow, their system allows people to be rescued from some holding tank so they can enter heaven. That’s not trusting Jesus. That’s trusting humans.
I really could go on and on. Catholics are indeed, mostly, a cult. The exception is those that trust Jesus ALONE for salvation. They do not pray to humans for godly matters.
Today a fellow Christian told me that he found it difficult to believe/understand that Muslims couldn’t be saved. I explained to him what Paul wrote in Ephesians 1:13 that anyone (muslim, Jew, gay drunkard) is only included in Christ after having heard the gospel and believed.
But what about those who live in “outer Mongolia” (live in an area where they never have opportunity to hear or read the gospel)? I told him to read Romans 2 where, to very roughly paraphrase, God will judge people according to how they live according to what they know – those who have the Law will be judged according to the Law epecially a Jew who feels that his connection with God is through the Law.. Gentiles/Muslims who don’t have the Law but obey it, they do so because God has given it to them by His Spirit. It is as if mankind is born with the moral Law in their hearts. So, if they never hear or read the gospel, they will be judged according to how they obey what is in their heart – don’t steal, don’t murder etc.
I believe the answer is more simple. God has told us that by his creation we will know he is God.. Meaning, you cannot look at all of life, and the creation of God, and ignore him.
[Romans 1:20] For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, that is, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, being understood by what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
You mentioned Mormons at the very first of the article, what is the issue with Mormons?
Although Mormons profess to be Christians and say they believe the Word of God, there are many of their beliefs that contradict Christianity. In my opinion, this is a cult. That doesn’t mean the people are bad, it’s simply means they are misled. Joseph Smith claimed to have seen a vision of God the Father and God the Son, , in which they denounced modern Christianity and appointed Smith to reveal and restore “true” Christianity.
One of the many areas in which Mormons fall short of saving faith is their belief that God is merely an exalted man who earned his position by good works (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345). This directly contradicts the Bible, which states that God has existed in His position as God of the universe from eternity past (Revelation 1:8; 1 Timothy 1:17; 6:15–16; Psalm 102:24–27). God was never a man (Numbers 23:19; 1 Samuel 15:29; Hosea 11:9) and is the holy and powerful Creator of all things (Genesis 1; Psalm 24:1; Isaiah 37:16). Mormons also believe that they themselves can attain the status of gods in the afterlife through their works here on earth (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345–354). However, no man can ever become like God (1 Samuel 2:2; Isaiah 43:10–11; 44:6; 45:21–22), despite what the serpent told Eve in the garden (Genesis 3:5).
Mormons also believe that Jesus was a god, but not God Himself (Mormon Doctrine, p. 547; Articles of Faith, p. 35; Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 372). It is essential to Christian faith that Jesus is one with God and that He is God’s only begotten Son who became flesh (John 1:1, 14; John 3:16). Only Jesus’ oneness with God would have allowed Him to live a sinless, blameless life (Hebrews 7:26). And only Jesus Christ was able to pay the price for our sins by His death on the cross (Romans 4:25; Acts 4:12).
So, yes, this is a cult religion. And again, that is not an insult towards the people who are fallen for this lie.
Yo Mike I am an 18 year old christian, I had a qestion n some comments. First off I do really love your perspective on how muslims aren’t any worse than like you and me. I think many christians will look at let’s say a gay man and say “ew”, or think they are awful. When they are sinners just like you and me and fallen short of the glory of God. You received a few comments that were a little against what you had said. While I really love your approach I believe the first guy is pretty good on his response, but yeah I don’t think how you stopped halfway or whatever in John 3:16 really mislead people. I also want to point out that while it was very easy for you to keep commenting to the young guy who commented in an attempt to be “right”. You chose to stop and explain to the young guy who said he was not exactly religious, which shows true character man. In my opinion at the end of the day we aren’t the judge. I do believe Jesus Christ is the one true God. I trust to leave it in God’s hands. But actually here’s a question for you Mike. Do you agree with my last statement “I trust to leave it in God’s hands”. Because yeah we aren’t the savior, but we also are God’s hands and feet. So with what we know about the bible should we try to save a muslim if they don’t believe in our God? Like yeah they believe in God, but are they saved? I think I need to read more into Islam religion. I mean if you do believe Muslims are saved then there is nothing to do. If you don’t then that is 25% of the population, which is like more than atheists that need saving. Definitely an UNDERRATED DEBATE for sure. However as much as we aren’t the judge. I do want to help share the truth of God. Ok bro I was all over the place, but I love your approach to this it is freaking RARE! Because obviously the you suck and I am better than you moral high ground don’t work to share the love of God. I love this compassionate approach however this world is filled with just your truth is your truth. And you do yous when it will seprerate from God them in hell. So we definitely want to stay away from too much acceptance to the point where no one repents or anything. We have to understand our need for God, and how have fallen short. However the christians saying you need God, or “You’re a mess, but I am not” is worthless almost. Love bro. Hope you keep sharing brotha!
Amen – they persecute me/us because they persecuted Jesus.
For me, the Bible is the final authority. So I take it very seriously. And it doesn’t leave any wiggle room to leave Jesus out of it. Jesus claims to be God, and I believe Him. And that really offends some people.
Yes, let’s leave it in God’s hands. Noting that God has told us how we inherit the kingdom. He said by faith, in Christ. No one comes to him any other way. So, my post was in no way to offend Muslims. But rather just the opposite. If we truly love Muslims, we would tell them what you believe to be true about salvation.
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I am hoping that when Christ returns and all the dead is raised, every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess… I am hoping that means Everyone can go to Heaven. Everything is up to God/Christ and not anyone else. But I do hope the Muslims go to Heaven too and All others . But I have no idea at all if they will or not.
You cannot confess that Jesus is Lord, and then deny what he said about salvation. Jesus said the one who believes is not condemned, but the one who does not believe in him, has already been condemned. He said no one comes to the father except through the son. He said, I am the way, I am the truth. He did not leave any wiggle room. He was very clear that anyone who does not believe in him will not inherit eternal life. So, wow, I think you mean well, you cannot make the claim that Christ is God, and then turn around and suggest that everybody, regardless of their faith will be saved.
It would be great if no one would perish. God literally said he wishes that none would die, not even one. Jesus said he did not come to condemn the world, but to save it.
So, if anyone doesn’t inherit the kingdom, it’s not because God sent them there. It’s because they rejected the only rescue plan that God has made available. Jesus
Brothers & Sisters in all humility and respect to all the commentators and comments here, I would say I find it fascinating that debates can spring out of a subject that needs not hide in ‘grey’ shadows. There is a distinctive difference between the Jesus (Isa) of the Quran and Yeshua of the Bible and it is this distinctive difference that makes ALL the difference which is simply NOT DEBATABLE. Isa in the Quran is a mere ‘prophet’ and in fact not even the last prophet as apparently he was superseded by Muhammad, Whilst Yeshua in Scripture is the announced Messiah in Old Testament and HE is our Lord Savior who has died and Resurrected on the Third day. HIS BLOOD is the New Covenant (Redemption) between man and GOD HE is the SON OF GOD in fact according to Scripture HE IS THE WORD MADE FLESH i.e. GOD HIMSELF incarnate and THE High Priest of Order of Melchizedeck in fact if we look closely at scripture we discover that HE IS ALSO MELCHIZEDECK. HE IS the ALPHA OMEGA the BEGINNING AND ENDING the one who WAS IS AND IS TO COME. The fact that in Muslims believe that some counterfeit guy died on the cross in Jesus’s place means they are in DENIAL of the MAIN REQUISITE for SALVATION which is FAITH IN CRIST ALONE and mostly ACCEPTING JESUS CHRIST (YESHUA) as Lord and Saviour and as the SON of the LIVING GOD. Muslims also do not believe in REPENTANCE whilst YESHUA instructed us TO REPENT. Repentance is not some act of apology, it is the recognition of our predicament as a FALLEN SPECIES i.e. our DNA corrupted by Adam and Eve (SIN) and the only way out of this CORRUPT DNA (SIN) is YESHUA’S BLOOD which holds the NEW COVENANT (i.e. NEW DNA) for humanity. Scientists have discovered Yeshua’s Blood is still alive and has only one chromosome i.e. the mother’s which means HIS BLOOD is indeed DIVINE. So we can argue till the cows come home but there are some many other scriptures we could bring in this discussion to prove that those who are UNBELIEVERS will not make it in the Kingdom of Heaven (it’s not enough to know the name Jesus because there is also a “false jesus” i.e. (Isa) but to believe meaning to ACCEPT the full TRUTH that is YESHUA IS MESSIAH, THE SON OF GOD, DIED FOR YOUR/MY SINS AND SINS OF ALL THE WORLD YES was RESURRECTED on the THIRD DAY and will come to REIGN as LORD OF ALL!! But only those who ACCEPT this covenant FULLY will be SAVED. As for the rest I am afraid as much as GOD LOVES THEM they will be choosing for themselves not necessarily Heaven. This is NOT judging it is Biblical Truth. If Yeshua knew that all that was required for Salvation was His Death on the Cross He would not have said this in Matthew 7:21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Please Note: “the WILL of MY FATHER (the father of Isa is not YHWH in fact Isa is NOT the son of GOD at all but only a Prophet) So doing Allah’s will is useless, for Allah is not YHWH. YHWH sent YESHUA and specifically said THIS IS MY SON in WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED. So anyone that does not do the WILL OF YHWH (YEHSUA’S FATHER) according to YESHUA’S WORD will not ENTER the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN) period! Secondly aside from CHRIST there is absolutely NO JUSTIFICATION or SANCTIFICATION, for ALL HAVE SINNED and fall short of the GLORY OF GOD, However Christians LIVE under the privilege of being SAVED by GRACE Justified and Sanctified ONLY because of our FAITH IN YESHUA as the Son of the Living GOD and our LORD AND SAVIOUR. All those that do not BELIEVE in CHRIST are unfortunately DEAD in SPIRIT and remain so unless they REPENT i.e. come from darkness to the LIGHT and it is I’m afraid a CHOICE that one can accept or NOT. in John 3:3 Yeshua says this Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be BORN AGAIN, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Being Born again means Repenting and Turning to CHRIST fully. Muslims are unbelievers as such they SPIRIT IS DEAD. Unfortunately. That is why we must PRAY for them incessantly and for all those who are unbelievers. AMEN.
You Protestants are truly the densest bunch I’ve ever encountered in my life. So first off, it was the One, Holy and Apostolic Church that inherited the authority Christ gave the apostles to LITERALLY put together the Bible. The Bible has no authority on its own, none. This is because the normal vanilla laity cannot interpret the scriptures in any regard. Would you like to know what happens when a “church” adopts some random asshole who knows nothing of theology to be their teacher/pastor even though (especially in the case of US Southern Protestants) he is likewise mentally retarded with an IQ less than 80? Cults. You get Mormons, Jehovah witnesses and worse yet Evangelicals and Fundamentalists. You people don’t know your heads from your asses, much less are you qualified to interpret sacred scripture. The aforementioned notion is nearly equivalent to bathing in human piss and pig blood as a purification ritual. No my “brothers in Christ”, and I’m using that metaphorically because I l know you Protestants are all inbred moronic Neanderthals with more genetic defects than fingers and obviously cannot tell the difference between literal, metaphorical and symbolic, hence the disgusting abortions of interpretations of scripture you rip out of your bleeding diarrhea riddled intestines. I mean for God’s sake you subhuman-apelike evolutionary throwback solemnly believe that the entire Bible is literal and that we’re all incest babies blasted out of every incest vagina since Eve, she for the record was also symbolic as was the entire Old Testament and as is all of the New Testament minus the Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles. Hate to break it to you but your best buddy Paul is a total fraud, the legitimacy of any letters he wrote to any groups is far from historically accurate and was written by multiple different authors all contributing to the same ridiculous narrative that an angry mass murdering Christian-killer Jew bag named Saul suddenly was healed of blindness God struck him with then healed him. What would be the point of that lovely narrative I wonder? Would it have something to do with converting the stubborn Jews of the time with a bs feel good story? Me thinks so. We should toss all that Paul crap out, revoke his canonization and admit he was a fabrication. But I digress. As I stated, if there was no authority vested in one true Church then the Bible is worthless, because aforementioned Church created the Bible! Not the other way around. Authority of the One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, sacred tradition and the Gospels is all the true Church needs. The Old Testament is good for the occasionally moral lesson but mostly it just portrays God the Father as an evil, judgmental, narcissistic, utilitarian, Machiavellian psychopath. In fact I need to start wiping my ass with the Old Testament every single day! Do you absolute cretins honestly believe that the earth is only 6000 years old and it was made in seven days? Should I start with, that’s completely asinine OR we have empirical numbers, data, mathematics and chemistry that proves beyond any doubt 100% that we can measure and calculate the decay of radioactive isotopes and carbon date to PROVE the earth is 4.5 billion years old, give or take a billion here and there to adjust for the minimal statistically insignificant margin of error. Do you pathetic dolts sincerely believe the Book of Revelation is Eschatology? Shame on you once for ignorance and shame you 70×7 for stupidity. It’s been cleared with every credible scholar and historian that the Book or Revelation pertained to the struggles and persecution of the early Church (666=Nero you dumbasses!) btw not your ignoramus Protestant churches, the real Catholic Church and EVEN the Orthodox Church whom is technically “in-schism” but not excommunicated and certainly deserves some respect unlike your Satanic, Man-made, and heretical Protestant churches and their disgusting Gospel of Health and Wealth that teaches that money and material success are signs of God’s favor. You have it backwards, God loves the poor. Jesus said and I’m paraphrasing Amen amen I say to you, tis easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Don’t call me on context for that either, the eye of needle he’s taking about was an extremely small and sharp crevice in the rocks that people typically just took their camels around for miles and miles because they wouldn’t fit. Not only is your general theology bloody piss-poor and nearly down-syndrome level neurologically speaking, your Protestant social teachings are absolutely appalling, truly rotten, bile-spewing, pure-evil, vitriolic and probably congealed in a gutter somewhere. The Lord Jesus was very clear when he expressed that the wealthy go to hell, EVERY SINGLE ONE. He wouldn’t send a drop of water to the rich asshole burning in hell and he turned the tables on the filthy capitalist pigs trying to extort the poor and needy selling goods at exorbitant prices in God’s holy temple, he specifically called it a den of thieves and literally chases them out whipping them until they bled and sprinted away screaming. Jesus my friends, founded socialism long before Marx but you greedy, evil Protestants worship money and pay your employees slave wages with no benefits. You deny human beings the intrinsic dignity the Lord gave all of us, this intrinsic dignity entails basic common sense principles like the human rights of a living wage, access to healthcare paid for by taxing the bourgeoisie sociopaths, and of course free shelter and education. These are universally recognized human rights that Jesus would have been behind 1000%. Yet you condemn the poor and homeless stating crap like “they choose to be homeless. It’s their fault, they made bad decisions” and on and on and on even though every credible non-profit and academic study has proven time and time again that the aforementioned sentiment is as untrue as it is a disgusting, vile and odious lie! We are absolutely *not* saved by faith, we are saved by grace which is a combination of HUMBLE BELIEF AND GOOD WORKS. Isn’t it that jerk Paul I urinated on before that said “Faith without works is dead faith”. Satan has faith in God, but he still actively defies Him, humans are afforded the same courtesy albeit we both pay the same price, hellfire. Most of the worst human beings I’ve ever met have called themselves Christians. Do you know why I doubt their sincerity? It’s not because they genuinely “aren’t a true Christian” that’s a stupid Protestant cop-out. It’s because actions speak louder than words; always have always will. Go ahead, roll the dice. Go to your retarded anti-science, creationist, anti-evolution literal teaching of the Bible. Have your blind, dead workless faith. See where it gets you. I’ll give you a secret, it’s hell. You’re going to hell because no Protestant has ever taken a single selfless action, they only take actions that benefit themselves and the white surpremacists, the racists, the neo-nazis, the wealthiest 1% and hedonistic adulterous filth like Trump. There are very few exceptions of Protestants attaining salvation. You will pay dearly for your defiance of Holy Mother Church and Her Sacred Authority. You will pay for failing to recognize the Immaculate Conception, the sinless and pure Blessed Virgin Mary the Queen of Heaven wearing the crown of 12 stars symbolized in the Book of Revelation. Most of all you will pay for your heresy and arrogance believing you are already “saved” when the vast majority of you live the most selfish lives imaginable in your merica’ bubbles coasting off the money you boomer pricks stole from the next 9 generations sitting around at “Bible studies” in a circle jerking each other off to your flagrant, blatant tangible hippocracy. Finally, the Catholic Church teaches that the Lord Jesus Christ is so merciful that in accordance with the mysterious unknowable nature of God Almighty, it is He alone that knows a person’s heart and by mechanisms known to him alone can grant salvation to those with a good heart. This includes suicides, those of other faiths, atheists and Agnostics. It is true Jesus is the way the truth and the life and that no one comes to the father except through Him, but in His mysterious omnibenevolence and great mercy he can save anyone that served Him with their lifestyle without ever knowing Him. Humans cannot be penalized by the concept of invincible ignorance. Remember
Nothing unclean enters the Kingdom of Heaven, -hence Confession and Purgatory
This IS MY BODY, THIS IS MY BLOOD he that does not eat my flesh and drink my blood has no life within him, yeah that is one of the literal parts and it couldn’t possibly sound more literal and less symbolic -Eucharistic Transubstantiation
Hail Mary full of grace the Lord is with thee… and all generations will call thee blessed (Archangel Gabriel in the Gospel) -Marian Doctrine
Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained (Acts of the Apostles) -Confession
This woman has real anger issues. Her name, Zero fits her personality perfectly. A typical coward, behaving like a third year-old bully, hiding behind her text online.
She has a few valid points especially about the republican “christian” talking points, i personally i think zero is right that the protestant christianity in the US has many moral and biblical shortcomings due to its doctrines being contaminated by worldy conservative ideology. But the vileness in her heart does not come from God. I think that most of the rhetoric on this page is uncivilized debate, and zero could have done a better and less vile job of explaining her points. At the end of the day, muslims do believe in Jesus, whether or not their belief in Jesus is enough for them to get into heaven is not for us to know, only God. They are from the same monotheistic stock as we are, they speak about us in a very similar manner that we speak of them, and they believe in the same God that we do, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, I’m not saying they will or wont be in communion with God, that is not for me to know only God but try and have love and compassion in your hearts for all people for that is our calling as Jesus’ followers. As well as promoting christian unity instead of trying to demonize catholics and protestants alike, for we believe in the same essential things, the trinity etc.. Dont downplay someone else’s relationship with Jesus just because they subscribe to another denomination, that is the epitome of ignorance.